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First, I would like to apologize for my poor ("german") English - and I invite everybody to correct my gramar/spelling/whatsoever:-)
Second, I would like to say that I am one of the main editors of http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neue_Medizin At the talk page of that
German article I found the link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryke_Geerd_Hamer and so came here. Realizing my poor language skills,
I will not edit "your" article, but share some ideas on this talk page. Just to make clear from the beginning of this discussion: in my
opinion "Germanische Neue Medizin", as Hamer names his strange ideas in german, has nothing to do with medicine - it is just the
opposite of medicine. It is an inhumane way of refusing medical treatment, based on pseudo-psychological and pseudo-biological ideas
mixed with anti-semitism. But let's have a look on the article:
Ryke Geerd Hamer (born 1935) is a German alternative cancer researcher. He served as head of the internal medicine department at
the Clinics of Eberhard Karls University of TÃ¼bingen from 1972 to 1981, when he resigned. In this decade he invented and patented
some surgery tools.
Hamer pretends to be a researcher. If you read any of his publications you will find out that this has nothing to do with research.
I cannot find any proof, that "he served as head of the internal medicine department at the Clinics of Eberhard Karls University of
TÃ¼bingen". Please check http://www.germannewmedicine.ca/documents/hamerbio.html
(...)
Basically, according to Hamer, any disease, most notably cancer, is not dangerous in itself, but merely a symptom of a mental
conflict situation. This conflict needs to be resolved in order for the disease to be cured while the tradititional treatments are not
considered as having a primary value.
The idea of a "mental conflict situation" is just one of Hamers "theory". He also "discovered that every disease originates from a
shock or trauma that catches us completely by surprise. The moment the unexpected conflict occurs, the shock strikes a specific
area in the brain causing a lesion (later called Hamer Focus) ..." (from: [1]). This sounds a bit different from "mental conflict
situation", but this does not disturb a great spirit;-)
(...)
On September 11, 1998 University of Trnava/Slovacia finished an investigation [2] held at the Oncology Division of the Hospital of
the University stating that "[...] The object of the investigation was to verify the New Medicine system scientifically. This proved to
be the case. [...] there is a high probability that the system is well founded." [3]
Please read the text of this so-called "investigation" and try not to laugh loudly. It is ridiculous to quote (BTW: incorrectly) such a
pamphlet in an encyclopedia.
The conflict between supporters and opponents of Hamer's theories, at the base of which what he calls "biological laws" lays, has
become more acrimonious over the years, with Hamer having started to use anti-semitic terminology and claiming that a genocidal
Jewish conspiracy wants him silenced. In a similar vein, he has started to call his theoretical groundwork "German New Medicine"
(GNM) - a registered trademark - or, in a literal translation from German, "Germanic New Medicine", instead of the formerly-used
term "New Medicine".
I would like to add that in Germany the term "Germanische Neue Medizin" (with it's blind critics of "Schulmedizin") is raising
historic parallels: in Nazi-Germany the "Neue Deutsche Heilkunde" was put against the "verjudete Schulmedizin". --RainerSti
13:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Dear Rainer! i agree and I attempted to modify this article to make it more npov. Please register here in the english wikipedia for better
comunication. Michael Redecke 18:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Contents
1 Allegations of anti-Semitism
2 rv feb 1, 2006
3 POV? Trivia? NPOV? Important fact?
4 edits by user Ekem
5 links
6 Hamer's own cancer and death of his son Dirk
7 "Hamer scalpel" story
8 "Hamer scalpel" story BUT why remove the link?
9 External references based on ad hominems and insults statements and ad hominem
justification
10 Histeric and Exaggerating people
11 Hamer fled to Norway in march 2007
12 Forgeries and manipulation committed by Hamer's followers
[edit] Allegations of anti-Semitism
The allegation of anti-Semitism cannot be taken seriously without a source. Which (presumable influential) information outlet has called
Hamer's theories "anti-Semitic"? JFW|T@lk 21:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
JFW! The sources are his own words, for instance in his letters he wrote from prison, but also ealier. my English is not good
enough for an exact translation. i insert here some links to statements from him in german language that appeared in the internet.
Some of his messages published in the german wikipedia by his supporters can not be found any more, because they have be
deleted to prevent legal actions against wikipedia. (deleted also in discussion history). I regret for the content.
see this link: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Neue_Medizin&oldid=4862899
examples found: Some published statements have been deleted by his own supporters in the meantime and can only be found by the
archive-service of google.com.
[Link zensiert, ama, 2.6.2010]
http://www.neue-medizin.net/hamer-brief-aktuell.html http://www.ansem.de/Hamer-Brief.htm
...Die Anordnung des Weltoberrabbiners haben nicht nur alle Rabbiner der Welt strikt befolgt, sondern alle jÃ¼dischen
GroÃŸlogenmeister der BÂ´nai BÂ´rith haben ihre kleinen Logensklaven ChefÃ¤rzte und Professoren angewiesen, den Massenmord an
den Nichtjuden strikt durchzufÃ¼hren, sowie alle Chefredakteure von Medien und Fernsehanstalten gezwungen, eine in der Geschichte
beispiellose ErkenntnisunterdrÃ¼ckungskampagne gegen die Neue Medizin und speziell gegen meine Person zu fÃ¼hren (â
žWunderheiler, Scharlatanâ œ) und alle Richter gezwungen, das Verbrechen mitzumachen. Ihren Weltoberrabbiner, den Ihre Freunde ja
zeitweilig fÃ¼r den Messias hielten, wird man mal als den schlimmsten leibhaftigen Satan bezeichnen.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040307100326/pilhar.com/Hamer/Korrespo/2003/20030103_Hamer_an_Denoun.htm
...Die Rabbinergerichte haben seit 22 Jahren keine Gnade oder Erbarmen gekannt, sie handeln in talmudischem Wahn, wovon sie ihre
angebliche Erlaubnis herleiten, alle Menschen, die nicht jÃ¼dischen Glaubens sind, umbringen zu dÃ¼rfen und zu sollen.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040307101211/pilhar.com/Hamer/Korrespo/2003/20030423_Hamer_an_Freunde.htm
I do not agree with the content of these links. I publish them here only for scientific use and as source for further research. Redecke
00:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello JFW, I appreciate very much your asking for serious sources. A a "presumable influential" (but of course strongly critizised by
GNM-friends) source I would mention Deutsche Krebsgesellschaft (German Cancer Society). In
http://www.krebsgesellschaft.de/pressemeldung_liste_aktuell,9935.html (visited 2005-07-14 22:20:53) I read:
(...) Hamer und Antisemitismus: In den Schriften von Hamer tritt eine eindeutige antisemitische Haltung zutage. UrsprÃ¼nglich
wurde die Theorie von Herrn Hamer unter dem Begriff "Neue Medizin" verbreitet. Neuerdings wurde eine begriffliche VerÃ¤nderung
in "Germanische Neue Medizin" vorgenommen. Zur BegrÃ¼ndung verweist Hamer in im Internet zugÃ¤nglichen E-Mails auf die
stolze Tradition des germanischen Volkes der Dichter und Denker, der Musiker und Entdecker, aus dem Dr. Hamer stamme. Auch
wolle er seinen Gegnern zuvorkommen, die "stehlen wie die Raben", so dass am Ende "dieses wunderbare GÃ¶ttergeschenk [die
GNM] dann vielleicht jÃ¼dische Neue Medizin" hieÃŸe. Weiter fÃ¼hrt Hamer aus: " Es ist doch so: Die jÃ¼dische Religion teilt
bekanntlich alles ein in gutartig u. bÃ¶sartig, so auch in der jÃ¼dischen sog. Schulmedizin. Wir Nichtjuden werden gezwungen,
weiterhin die jÃ¼dische Schulmedizin zu praktizieren mit Chemo, Morphium....- die die Juden selbst aber seit 20 Jahren nicht mehr
praktizieren." (www.AGPF.de/Hamer.htm). An anderer Stelle wird die absurde Behauptung aufgestellt, dass Juden sich nach der
"Germanischen Neuen Medizin" behandeln lieÃŸen und deshalb Krebs zu 98% Ã¼berlebten, wÃ¤hrend 95% der schulmedizinisch
Betreuten daran stÃ¼rben. Diese SÃ¤tze entlarven sich selbst als klarer, dumpf-dÃ¼mmlicher Antisemitismus.
There are several hints for a paranoid affection (I'm not sure, if this is correct english), and therefore I am not sure, if Hamer's
anti-semitic outlets would really be understood as such by court. Please make your own conclusions. --RainerSti 08:30, 11 December
2005 (UTC)
[edit] rv feb 1, 2006
Hamer has never published in a scientific way. Side effects of cancer treatments are often dangerous, but at the same time they offer a
real chance for any patient. A spontaneous remission is a very rare situation (1 case out of 50000-100000). And: wikipedia is not the
place for opinions ( ... society is not ready for his theories...) Redecke 23:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
As far as I understood Hamer's theory, his special psychotherapy triggers the procedures that lead to "spontaneous remission".
There is no evidence, that psychiatric conditions are not correlated with tumor events. But there is a scandinavian study, that
shows that the diagnosis depression is not correlated with the diagnosis breast cancer, which is exactly what Hamer predicts, since
in his theory psychiatric diagnosis and oncological diagnosis is just the open visible manifestation of the deeper psychological
problem, and that different patients show different manifestations. By the way: What does "society is not ready for his theories"
mean? They dont deserve them or what? At least I would need a thorough study about the life expectancy of patients who chose
Hamer's therapy concept, before I can believe one side or the other... --213.54.79.116 09:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV? Trivia? NPOV? Important fact?
Since when do we talk here about
guardianship court's patients?
un-mature patients?
Hamer approaching a patient himself?
uninformed patients (where did they get the initial diagnose?)?
I think it is very very important to see, that the patients of Hamer are not forced by him, but that they decide according their own free
will to reject the universitary medicine! Furthermore there are cases of suicide after the diagnose "cancer" was learned, so that rejecting
universitary medicine is nothing special and nothing Mr. Hamer can do about. Thanks! --213.54.79.116 08:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
the content of this article should not be based on webpages of a sect. the final judgments of several courts concerning hamer are
clear. Redecke 13:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Did he use his patented psycho-manipulator or what? --213.54.79.116 15:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] edits by user Ekem
Hamer is a former physician, now living in spain.
Dirk-Hamer-Syndrome. About this syndrome nothing is know for sure.
Ekem wrote: (i cite)...The effect on the brain can be demonstrated by MRI where a specific focal alteration (Hamer's focus, or â
œHamerscher Herdâ ) is apparent....this is not true, even from the POV of hamers supporters because they claim that such a DHS
should always be visibile in CT brain scans, but not in any MRI. It is a fact that hamer never tried to prove his CT ring artefacts by
comparing them to any MRI scan. I worked (after my study of human medicine) in radiology several years, and i know these ring
artefacts very well. I worked also with a Somatom of Siemens. Ring artefacts can occur in older ct scanners if:
the calibration procedure at the beginning of operation was not done
one or several sensors are not working properly
an if in different scans, these rings are seen in different positions
a CT scan showing an alleged DHS can be seen here on a private webpage of a Hamer supporter:
http://www.pilhar.com/Hamer/Korrespo/2005/20050808_Beisswenger_GlaubeWissenWeisheit.htm Siemens (manufacturer of the CT
scanner Somatom, popular here in Germany over many years, wrote a paper about how to identify ring artefacts. One (out of many)
sign is the fact that in ring artefacts you will always see perfect concentring rings. The paper can be seen here:
http://www.pilhar.com/Hamer/NeuMed/Zertif/891222og.htm
the CT brain scan shows exactly these concentric ring artefacts. Another page telling us about ring artefacts is this one:
http://www.medcyclopaedia.com/library/topics/volume_i/r/ring_artefact/gring_artefact_fig1.aspx?s=ring%20artefact&scope=&mode=1
Michael Redecke 14:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I have zero arguments with any changes that keep the article objective. I would think, however, that he is a physician, because he
graduated and the University has not revoked his degree. My changes stated clearly that the court revoked his licence to practice,
but there is no evidence that his "Doctor of Medicine" degree has been revoked. Regarding the "Hamer's focus" I was simply
trying to present Hamer's thesis. Is it necessary to inject in each sentence some qualifier? The removal of the reference to Hamer's
focus omits now valuable information. Let us put this back and make sure that the language indicates that their presence is
controversial. I believe that this is better than omitting information.Ekem 14:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
again, you inserted an error. please show any MRI showing one of these DHS. Hamer and his supporter clearly mean
CT-scans, and not MRI-scans! Please check your edits before inserting them, we need more precision in this article. you
did not read my comments or you are ignoring them (and also the claims of Hamer himself). These DHS do not exist
simply, they are artefacts (i recognized them immediately, remembering them from my time in radiology), you may also
take a look at the paper: [2] in which we read: ...the hamer foci on the ct images in hamers books have been identified by
radiological experts as typical artefacts produced by the radiological device which can appear in a poor-quality ct
scan...In Germany people with a certain amount of jail-time loose automaticly their right to use their title, i agree with the
word banned. I don't know the situation in US or England. Michael Redecke 15:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
ABOUT VERIFICATION. Fist at all, my english is not good, and will try to my best. When Dr. Hamer present his hipotesis on the
University he worked, these hipotesis never were verified as correct or incorrect because Univerty rejected the verification. So, if
something is incorrect, well, it must be verified at begining. Besides, there are a lot of no proved theories on actual oncology therapy.
The most important of theme is METASTASIS. Metastasis has NEVER been prooved sciencely but it's used as universal truth. There a
lot of not proved theories that actual Medicine uses as true althougt these one are never been proved in a science procedure. I understand
this doesn't mean that Hamer is correct, but means that actual MODEL of medicine has to be reevaluated. Well soory about my english.
Later I will try writing a better letter. V.C.
[edit] links
http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amamiche.htm
http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/New-Medicine/index.html
[edit] Hamer's own cancer and death of his son Dirk
Hamer said: ...Wie ich heute weiÃŸ, erlitt ich damals einen Verlustkonflikt mit Hodenkrebs. Damals kannte ich jedoch diese
ZusammenhÃ¤nge noch nicht, sondern vermutete nur, dass meine Hodenschwellung, die ich 2 Monate nach dem Tode meines Sohnes
Dirk spÃ¼rte, irgend etwas mit seinem Tod zu tun haben mÃ¼sste... (http://www.neue-medizin.de/html/ein_vermachtnis.html) Hamer
tells on his own webpage that he felt the first symptoms of his cancer two month after the death of his son. This is of cource a clear
evidence that there is no rational link between these two events. Redecke 15:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Hamer scalpel" story
According to the german newspaper "Der Stern", the Hamer-scalpel was indeed invented and costly pateted woldwide by RG Hamer.
The money for the development came from investors. The german company Kienzle wanted to produce this battery-operated knife. But
tests revealed that this scalpel was not "atraumatic" at all: it produced even large lesions when it was used "in curves", it did not work
better than a normal scalpel. The investors asked therefore their money back and Hamer had to sign a "affidavit of means" because he
could not pay back the money. According to the newspaper article, he left Germany for Italy because of his financial problems in
Germany. Reference: Der Stern, november 24, 1983. Authors Teja Fiedler and Cordt Schnippen. Faxsimile can be seen here:
http://www.ariplex.com/agb/a70205/stern_3.jpg Redecke 00:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Hamer scalpel" story BUT why remove the link?
Thanks for your article, but why do you remove the link which reference that exists this " not "atrumatic " " scalpel. It is a reference,
and if it isn't some bad-intentional persons could put it away because "it has none reference". A put it back.
Dear IP! You inserted several times a link to a company that allegedly sells a "Hamer scalpel". Why do you do that? We do not
know the date of this list, we do not know if this scalpel is still sold, and it is not a reference to your assertion (without any
reference) that this scalpel should be less traumatic than others. the link you inserted is a reference that this scalpel was existing or
still exists. But nothing more. Michael Redecke 16:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External references based on ad hominems and insults statements and ad hominem
justification
I have removed this external reference:
Wehrhafte Medizin! One of the large international sites about charlatanism and quackery
It is based on ad hominens and insults about Germanic New Medicine. Please, take a look on this "reference" ans his "serious"
approach. I believed that what you has written is enough justification for the removing: "...sites about charlatanism and quackery"
The part above is not by me and it is not signed. So I drew a line to separate.
The person with the IP "190.64.83.98" in a salami tactic repeatedly cuts out pieces he does not like and puts in pieces in favor of Hamer.
We know that Hamer followers commit large-scale vandalism in forums and guest books. From what I see done by IP "190.64.83.98" I
come to conclusion that this person believes himself to do it more cleverly than the other vandals. But it still is vandalism.
"Wehrhafte Medizin!" indeed is one of the large international sites about charlatanism and quackery. And it is the number one site about
Hamer and his followers and about the crime they commit. No wonder the Hamer death sect does not like it.
But facts are facts - and all on that site about Hamer is proven by pieces of proof. The site is backed up with a huge data base to
supports justice offices and journalists.
Zo'orIon 21:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Histeric and Exaggerating people
As We:. can see, you seem completely Histeric. The Justice has put Hamer in Jail because his crimes, and now he is free because
J:.ustice too. It means that Justice has spoken and has done. So Ryke Hamer has already paid his crimes acording to the LAW, that is
what's matter, no simples peoples OPINIONS. And just now we learned using wikipedia's editing discussions tools, maybe you could
thought that, instead of "vandalism act". It seems that Hamer's oppossitors are more paranoid that Hamer's followers. You behavior can
make people think that we, the neutral people who try neutraly to put information about Hamer's crimes are so fanatic as you. â
”Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.64.82.250 (talk â ¢ contribs) 2007-03-09T01:56:59 UTC
The part above is not by me and it is not signed. So I drew a line to separate.
Comments like the one above we see day for day. They mainly consist of primitive and foul retoric and plain lies. It is not a "privilege"
of the Hamer scene to use them. It is normal esoteric hogwash rhetoric. You find it everywhere.
One of the lies is to declare plain facts as OPINIONS (see the stressed word above). By this all unwanted real facts are shoved away.
And at the same time EVERYTHING unwanted is falsely supressed as "opinions". And at the same time all the claims of the very
esoteric proponent are either levered up as being facts or (at least) as discussible opinions. Discussion about opinion is free. The right of
free speach rules.
In this way utmost stupidity is made a discussible part of life (even if hundreds of people die because of it [as is in the case of Hamer's
madness], whilst even simplest scientific knowledge is suppressed as ONLY being "opinions", "opinions these guys can have, but we
don't have to care about".
The web site where I took the links from is teaching rhetoric analysis. No wonder why the esoterics and other charlatans and quacks do
not like it. No wonder why the links were taken out and are defamed as being "spam".
The esoterics and other charlatans and quacks are easily to detect. Their language is foul stench.
Zo'orIon 19:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

So u say, that people should learn as early as possible, to detect "manipulative rhetoric"? I personally found it very difficult to keep
my own opinion, when I was under influence of psychiatric drugs and of certain people (like doctors of medicine and others)...
Maybe u want to describe some useful methods in a special section, that help to think clear, when under the influence of other
people? Or maybe u should link to another article, that is about this kind of manipulation? --Homer Landskirty 18:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamer fled to Norway in march 2007
According to his lawyer (Joachim Koch in Schwerin/Germany) Hamer lives in a town south of Oslo in Norway. Hamer himself said in
an interview (date september 23, 2007) that he left spain in march just one day before a scheduled arrest, and that he fled to Norway
because that country is not part of the European Union. References: lawsuit Lanka-Hamer 2007, interview sept.23/2007
(italian),Hamer-biography at Esowatch (german). â ”Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.122.101.190 (talk) 00:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
See also: Kongsberg/Norway 2006: death of cancer patient Elsemarit Fjeldheim who believed in new medicine. She refused
convential cancer therapy and died after beeing cured according to Ryke Geerd Hamer treatment.
Verdens Gang (VG 25) article date march 25, 2007 page 30 and 32
same newspaper, article march 26, 2007 page 12
http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2003/mars/1047576830.22
http://lists.skepsis.no/pipermail/diskusjon/2007-March/000823.html
82.82.236.120 08:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Forgeries and manipulation committed by Hamer's followers
The page about Hamer is under attack by Hamer's followers. The reason is clear: they want to eliminate any kind of criticisme.
Today I weeded out a forgery concerning the fate of Christina Connell. As we are in direct contact with the family Connell we do know
the facts and we do not allow any kind of forgery, not here, and nowhere else!
One tactic of forgery is to piece for piece substitute the text with more and more misleading parts and statements, until they have a
completely different meaning.
Take this example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryke_Geerd_Hamer&diff=168475394&oldid=168132128
WAS: After she realized that Hamer led her on the wrong way, it was too late:
WAS FORGED TO: After she changed her mind and decided that Hamer led her on the wrong way,
We do know these tricks and we do not allow them. At this time being we are preparing a new wave of media information. Any kind of
forgery or other crime by Hamer's followers will hit themselves badly. We are on their heels...
Zo'orIon 07:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Added, november 3rd, 2007:
Today I found the corrections and additions which I made yesterday destroyed by this person:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Homer_Landskirty
This is the person who had forged the above mentioned passage concerning Christina Connell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huangdi

"Homer_Landskirty" writes about himself:
disclaimer I dont want to be responsible for what I write or do or say... Take into account my mental disability, please. Any
advice (especially legal and/or medical), I might give, is worth almost nothing due to a lack of license... So u say, that people should learn as early as possible, to detect "manipulative rhetoric"? I personally found it very difficult to
keep my own opinion, when I was under influence of psychiatric drugs and of certain people (like doctors of medicine and others)...
Maybe u want to describe some useful methods in a special section, that help to think clear, when under the influence of other people?
Or maybe u should link to another article, that is about this kind of manipulation? --Homer Landskirty 18:29, 8 May 2007 Please take care, that these persons do not again commit forgeries in wikipedia.
Thank you Zo'orIon 02:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I didnt chg (or forge), I just reverted your inacceptable edits (remember, please: u included threats in ur text)... I will ask an
administrator to supervise the activities, that r going on in last days here... --Homer Landskirty 08:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hi! I think, I cleaned up the article sufficiently now. Especially I removed the claims, that Hamer is responsible for the death of people, since the governmental officials expressively say, that those dead people had no psychiatric diagnose (in that case they would have been incompetent to choose their medical treatment... guardianship judge would do that for them, if they dont comply to their MDs wishes...)... I fixed some wrong links... I shortened several paragraphs (esp.: biography... e. g. his patents r irrelevant since most relevant MDs dont like Hamer, so that they will refuse to use his inventions... I just left a short remark to document, that he did "doctor things" until his psychological trauma...)... I removed the "other cases" paragraph, because it was too bogus (20yrs of unsuccessful conventional oncology is too much for most people... with _and_ without Hamer I would guess...)... I divided Hamer's view on GNM from the view of "the others"... --Homer Landskirty 17:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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Postanschrift:
AGBÜMMS General Sekretär
Dipl.(U)-Inf. a.D.
Zeuge der General-Anklage
Arne Wörner · Am Doktorgraben 1 · 25541 Brunsbüttel · SH · F.Rep.GERM
Fax#/Voice#: +49 4852 530838
EMail-Adresse: info@wgboome.de
Wikipedia-Accounts: user:Homer Landskirty user:Heimschützenverein
Haftungsausschluss
Zuständiges Betreuungsgericht: Amtsgericht Meldorf · RiAG Kassowarth Rotraud von Sondermühlen[1] · Tel# +49 4832 87 1344 · Fax# +49 4832 87 1112
Da der Betreuungsrichter den General Sekretär der AGBÜMMS für in einem komplexen Wahnsystem befangen befunden hat, sind Eingaben dort und hier entsprechend sinnvoll.

1] : Name von der Redaktion aus Rücksichtnahme auf die Persönlichkeitsrechte geändert, aber der Redaktion bekannt.
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Wikipedia als psychiatrischer Betreuungsfall...

Zoran:
Betreuungsfall? Und was für einer!

Vrolliastar:
Es wurde nicht besser. Wikipedia ist der Inbegriff von Fälschung.

Der geschilderte Vorfall war 2007, vor 13 Jahren. Wikipedia hat und die Wikipediamacher haben nicht, haben niemals und werden niemals begreifen, daß sie Geschichtsklitterungsnazis sind. Eben echte Nazis. Fälschen ist ein Teil ihrer Existenz.

ama:
Hier sieht man einen Teil des Krieges:

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curprev 10:07, 2 October 2006‎ 83.129.181.52 talk‎ 6,119 bytes +50‎ tragic would imply an impasse, which is established neither by the external circumstances not by the mental state of the prince as far as publicly known (so he could have acted differently); undo
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