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Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« on: September 13, 2016, 09:18:58 PM »

In post http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=8926.msg20821#msg20821 R0b1999 says:

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    @MirnMac Ask Lauren Downie [in Scotland] if exposing the @BX_Protocol fraud is "needless" (while it still exists),
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 09:51:29 PM »

Follows

https://twitter.com/aribertdeckers/status/775134482357714944

"Aribert Deckers @aribertdeckers
.@billythekid4u @BX_Protocol The media is out to get you. They will nail you to the wall for this .


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsHUo5VWYAApU8z.jpg
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Points to this BBC article

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-18643231

"Scotland selected Edinburgh, Fife & East Glasgow & West Highlands & Islands NE, Orkney & Shetland selected South Tayside & Central

Scottish cancer girl Olivia Downie dies after return from Mexico
29 June 2012
From the section NE Scotland, Orkney & Shetland


http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/61117000/jpg/_61117072_olivia_downie.jpg

Olivia Downie
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Olivia Downie was diagnosed with neuroblastoma three years ago
A seven-year-old Fraserburgh girl with terminal cancer, flown back to Scotland from Mexico after more than £150,000 was raised, has died.
Olivia Downie and her family flew out earlier this month to get treatment for neuroblastoma, which she was diagnosed with three years ago.
She flew back to Aberdeen on Wednesday.
The family said in a statement: "It is with great sadness that we announce that our darling daughter Olivia slipped away peacefully."
We were blessed to have had Olivia in our lives and her cheeky smile that shone like a star will be with us forever
Family statement
Olivia's parents, Lauren and Steven Downie, and family said she died on Friday morning after a "long and courageous battle".
They said: "We are so thankful that, thanks to the generosity of so many people, we have been able to take her home to Scotland so she could have her family by her side.
"Words cannot express how grateful we are that this final journey was made possible.
Plane arrives back
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The plane touched down in Aberdeen on Wednesday afternoon
"We would like to extend our gratitude to the medical and nursing teams both at NHS Grampian and overseas who have also been part of our lives for so long.
They added: "We were blessed to have had Olivia in our lives and her cheeky smile that shone like a star will be with us forever."
They also appealed for privacy "at such a devastating time in all our lives".
When the treatment in Mexico failed, Olivia was flown back by Air Ambulance Worldwide.
The charity Families Against Neuroblastoma has been helping the family.

More on this story
Cancer girl Olivia Downie arrives back in Scotland from Mexico
27 June 2012
Cancer girl Olivia Downie could be flown home to Fraserburgh from Mexico
25 June 2012
Related Internet links"

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2016, 10:17:28 PM »

In 2012 happened

http://web.archive.org/web/20121101234914/http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223,0.htm
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Hope4Cancer Institute
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Loula Loula

Hope4Cancer Institute

by Loula on Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:06 PM
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Has anyone heard of this clinic in Mexico?
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mmsurvivor mmsurvivor

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by mmsurvivor on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:18 AM
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Through the most roundabout way I know referred a patient who ended up there, she had extreme advance breast cancer with lung and liver involvement, after 3 months she was almost cancer free so I would at least check it out.  Somewhere I have the information she sent me so will try and find it.  So I guess I know 1 person who did very well there and the price was reasonable.  Take care mms
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mmsurvivor mmsurvivor

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by mmsurvivor on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:21 AM
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http://www.canhelp.com/ClinicsVisit.htm

here is a rundown on some clinics and I also know that the one Dr Gammel runs also had good success. mms
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Loula Loula

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by Loula on Mon Sep 20, 2010 01:10 AM
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    On Sep 20, 2010 12:21 AM mmsurvivor wrote:

    http://www.canhelp.com/ClinicsVisit.htm "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.canhelp.com/ClinicsVisit.htm " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.canhelp.com/ClinicsVisit.htm


    here is a rundown on some clinics and I also know that the one Dr Gammel runs also had good success. mms

Dear mmsurvivor

Thank you very much for taking the time to offer your help and for all the great information that you have passed on to me.

I have actually looked into another Mexican clinic - Hope4Cancer Institute but find the cost of almost $29,000 (excluding airfares) unaffordable.

The San Diego clinic is only half the price at $12,000 and the Tijuana clinic even more affordable which is fantastic.

God bless you.

Loula
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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by mmsurvivor on Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:46 PM
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Your welcome: Congrats and let us know how it goes, those on the list are well thought of and one of my patients in the early 80's went to one and did very well......Hope for a remission for you.  MMS
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talaamiri talaamiri

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by talaamiri on Mon Oct 04, 2010 05:57 AM
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please let me know of the web site or tel number of the clinics you have found.

-San Diego clinic

-Tijuana clinic

Thank you very much.

Tala
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Sally13 Sally13

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by Sally13 on Sat May 26, 2012 04:17 AM
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Our experience was negative. The program did nothing for my daughter. She died several months after receiving treatment.  Nor did I see recoveries on the part of others to support the bloated statistics that Toni Jimenez gave in a phone interview prior to our deciding to go there. The staff are attentive while you are there, but they ignore you after you leave even if you have signed up for their home programs. I think most nurses, technicians, and office people genuinely think they are helping patients, but I think Jimenez and the other doctors know the true situation--and once you are gone, they don't want to know what has happened to you because it doesn't support their advertisements. Two weeks is too short a time to cure someone of a life-threatening illness, and patients are sent home with demanding regimes that few can follow for any period of time and often with ports for IVs that can result in serious infections requiring hospitalization. Jimenez spends most of his time promoting the program. In our experience, he spends little time with patients at the clinic. When we were there, no one had been able to find reviews of the clinic. The reviews on the web are promotional items by the clinic. 

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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by laurendownie on Fri Jun 01, 2012 09:33 PM
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Hi sorry for the questions,what type of cancer did your daughter have?and whats her age?my daughter is 7 and has neuroblastoma and were about to go here as a last ditch attempt as she has alot of cancer in her bones.ive read some positive some negative.the flights are going to cost us almost as much as the treatment!!!im so sorry to hear of the passing of your daughter.someth ing no parent should ever endure x

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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by IndiraGuevara on Mon Jun 11, 2012 05:09 AM
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Oh my osh, is your daughter Olivia? We have just donated to the neuroblastoma families, i am sorry it is not much, but really praying for Olivia. My daughter also has neuoblastoma, and we are looking into this cancer treatment as well. Please do keep us updatec on ow it goes. Www.mayakim.ca
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by JulieAustin on Wed Jun 27, 2012 05:34 AM
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What clinics in San Diego are you talking about ?
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What kind of "home programs" by Jimenez?
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2016, 10:39:31 PM »

In 2012 follows

http://web.archive.org/web/20121101234925/http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223,1.htm

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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 04:52 AM
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    On May 26, 2012 4:17 AM Sally13 wrote:

    Our experience was negative. The program did nothing for my daughter. She died several months after receiving treatment.  Nor did I see recoveries on the part of others to support the bloated statistics that Toni Jimenez gave in a phone interview prior to our deciding to go there. The staff are attentive while you are there, but they ignore you after you leave even if you have signed up for their home programs. I think most nurses, technicians, and office people genuinely think they are helping patients, but I think Jimenez and the other doctors know the true situation--and once you are gone, they don't want to know what has happened to you because it doesn't support their advertisements. Two weeks is too short a time to cure someone of a life-threatening illness, and patients are sent home with demanding regimes that few can follow for any period of time and often with ports for IVs that can result in serious infections requiring hospitalization. Jimenez spends most of his time promoting the program. In our experience, he spends little time with patients at the clinic. When we were there, no one had been able to find reviews of the clinic. The reviews on the web are promotional items by the clinic. 

Dear Sally13,

My heart goes out to you over your loss, as well as your discouraging experience with H4CI. We are so sorry...

We are currently investigating the few options that we know about at this point. Apparently there are few choices that exist for treating children under the age of 16 who have been diagnosed with cancer, outside of the FDA-approved protocol.

Sally13, how old was your daughter, if I might ask? What was her diagnosis and condition? What was the time span from her initial diagnosis until her very untimely passing? What did you do prior to going to H4CI? What made you want to even go there in the first place? Did you have reservations going in, i.e. 2nd thoughts, while or after looking the place over, talking with the personnel there, especially Dr. Jimenez?

We were impressed with the place, even though it seems a lot of money for the time spent there at the clinic. And some of the equiptment is simple looking. Pam said that they would provide plans if we wanted, to replicate some of the equiptment, in addition to the "included" equiptment they give us to take home. They tout a 1-year after-care followup/ ongoing treatment utilising said equiptment they include in the total treatment price. IV's were not part of the initial after-care program, although we want to do everything possible, if it is available.

Our little girl has been being treated with IMRT potentiated by localized microwave hyperthermia since January in LA. Our family has been separated, except for a week here, a week there under FMLA, as I stay back home and work. My wife is our daughter's primary/ only full-time caregiver. She is our only child. This has been a tremendous strain on us all, of course. We do have strong faith and hope. And we have had visible, documentable, verifiable success(es). And what appear to be setbacks.

Without rewriting what I've already written here elsewhere in response to a post by a dad who's son has the same diagnosis as our daughter, I'll link it here, from Osteosarcoma high grade by josephhoctor on Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:21 AM
http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231

I hope we can dialogue, because at the very least you can be in our prayers, and you in turn can perhaps help save us a lot of money, if what you are claiming is accurate. And maybe steer us in the right direction. Thank you so much.

Also, if anyone reading this... Loula, mmsurvivor, talaamiri, laurendownie, IndiraGuevara, JulieAustin, truthseeker113, julianna, Morning Walker, mbg53, Chrystalluna, rjcrossley, jcr65566, lilise, etc who are looking into/ have looked into Mexican Clinics, and/ or SPDT... mgraf, scrubba, Kirsten_72, Shushi, etc., and/ or other "alternative" treatment protocols and methods, and would also like to chime in, I/ we would greatly appreciate it.
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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 04:57 AM
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Sorry, that link doesn't work. Here is the full link to my first post to Josephhoctor regarding Osteosarcoma High Grade. Apparently, I deleted part of the address while editing my message:http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231
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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:15 AM
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    On Sep 19, 2010 11:06 PM Loula wrote:

    Has anyone heard of this clinic in Mexico?

Yes, we traveled there in July 2012 for a tour and consultation with Dr. Tony. It's pricey, altho we were told by their marketing manager that that is pretty much the going rate for this type of treatment. Then again we're newbies, and our insurance has been taking care of the lions share of our bills so far. This would be uncharted waters for us; fortunately we seem to have secured financing. Of course, I still wonder what else is "out there". The contact person we are working with (M.M.) claims that very few clinics exist that accept children. I know from my own research that this is the case in the USA, NAFTA, the FDA has the freedom (how ironic) to come 50 miles in across the international border and conficatorially snatch your kid to bring back to the states to begin the "treatment" they "should have gotten in the first place"... even if what you as parents have been doing has been working to not only build your child's immune system up to fight the disease naturally, but possibly even be well on the way to being cured! Like she said to me, "You may think you do, but ultimately you don't own your kid. They do." Well, I got news for "them", God owns our kid, and we, her parents are "just" her stewards while she is on this earth and still a minor!

What, loula, did you find out, and did you ever go there to H4CI.. or somewhere else? I/ we would be very interested to know.
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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:25 AM
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    On Sep 20, 2010 10:46 PM mmsurvivor wrote:

    Your welcome: Congrats and let us know how it goes, those on the list are well thought of and one of my patients in the early 80's went to one and did very well......Hope for a remission for you.  MMS

Dear MMS,

Wondering if you know any more anout H4CI, and just wanted to dovetail to you what I wrote to someone else here who you briefly corresponded with. Here are the links to what I wrote/ our story so far:

Reply to sally13 who had horrible experience with H4CI/ loss of daughter…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

Reply to josephhoctor who has 8 yr old son w/ Mets OS…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231

Reply to loula, asked if anyone has heard of this clinic in Mexico?

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223
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dadofelise5 dadofelise5

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:32 AM
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    On Oct 04, 2010 5:57 AM talaamiri wrote:

    please let me know of the web site or tel number of the clinics you have found.

    -San Diego clinic

    -Tijuana clinic

    Thank you very much.

    Tala

Dear Tala,

It's been 2 years since you posted here on CancerCompass, but I wanted to ask if you ever found out more in your research, and did you ever utilise any of the services/ treatment protocols from any of these clinics, or others you found later in your research/ treatment journey?

I have provided some links below, giving you the option to click on and learn much more about our journey with our daughter, rather than clog up this space with the actual body of previously written replies...

Reply to sally13 who had horrible experience with H4CI/ loss of daughter…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

Reply to josephhoctor who has 8 yr old son w/ OS…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231

Reply to loula, asked if anyone has heard of this clinic in Mexico?

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

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dadofelise5 dadofelise5

RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:46 AM
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    On Jun 01, 2012 9:33 PM laurendownie wrote:

    Hi sorry for the questions,what type of cancer did your daughter have?and whats her age?my daughter is 7 and has neuroblastoma and were about to go here as a last ditch attempt as she has alot of cancer in her bones. ive read some positive some negative. flights are going to cost us almost as much as the treatment!!! im so sorry to hear of the passing of your daughter. something no parent should ever endure x

Hello Lauren,

How is your dear daughter doing? I pray for good news.

I am in the process of responding one by one to each contributor here on CancerCompass regarding a specific Mexican clinic (Hope4Cancer Institute), and/ or any others offering similar treatment protocols... your response to sally13 (who I still do really hope to hear from, as we are very close to committing to going to H4CI) was only a few months ago, so still pertinent. DId you ever hear from her privately? I too concur with your thoughts, I agree, no parent should ever endure the gruesome passing of their little child... And my heart and prayers go to you as well for your own challenging situation. You said you read some positive (reviews/ comments), "some" negative, implying more than one. Not sure if one of them is sally13's review here on CC... What other(s) did you come across and could/ would you PLEASE share them with me? ASA. We are this close to committing to H4CI, and financially it will wipe us out. But it's our best hope (not "Hope") at this point. Our learning curve is a work in progress, hampered by the unavoidable fact that our family is split apart by this as I work back in the midwest while they are on the west coast since January; my wife is our daughter's caregiver, is getting burned out, and every 5 days out of 7 I have to somehow concentrate on and switch my allegiance from my daughter's life and the reunification of our family unit, back to our primary source of income which generates our insurance benefits.
Any leads, or thoughts you can find time to share with me/ us here would be a godsend. Thank you!

PS here are the links to my previous replies to pertinent postings here on CC:

Reply to sally13 who had horrible experience with H4CI/ loss of daughter…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

Reply to josephhoctor who has 8 yr old son w/ OS…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231

Reply to loula, asked if anyone has heard of this clinic in Mexico?

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:55 AM
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    On Jun 11, 2012 5:09 AM IndiraGuevara wrote:
    Oh my osh, is your daughter Olivia? We have just donated to the neuroblastoma families, i am sorry it is not much, but really praying for Olivia. My daughter also has neuoblastoma, and we are looking into this cancer treatment as well. Please do keep us updatec on ow it goes. www.mayakim.ca " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mayakim.ca "" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mayakim.ca " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mayakim.ca " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mayakim.ca " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mayakim.ca

Good evening Indira and family,

I have been on your website www.mayakim.ca " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.mayakim.ca a few times now reading your blog entries. My thoughts and prayers go out for your daughter. I did not see any mention or information on Hope4Cancer Institute there on your site, and no one has apparently responded yet to your post here in this section of the site. What was your assessment of H4CI? DId you decide/ were you able to travel over the border and look further into it, or actually commit to one of them for treatment?
Here are three links to previous replies I have shared with others here on CC, regarding a thumbnail background sketch on our journey, and especially as it relates to our search for a place that will treat her systemically, hopefully to eradicate every last rogue cell in her body...

Reply to sally13 who had horrible experience with H4CI/ loss of daughter…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

Reply to josephhoctor who has 8 yr old son w/ OS…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231

Reply to loula, asked if anyone has heard of this clinic in Mexico?

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by dadofelise5 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 03:58 AM
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    On Jun 27, 2012 5:34 AM JulieAustin wrote:
    What clinics in San Diego are you talking about ?

Julie,

Did you ever look any further into any of the Mexican clinics? Here is a portion of our story, as told via three different replies to posts here..

Reply to sally13 who had horrible experience with H4CI/ loss of daughter…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

Reply to josephhoctor who has 8 yr old son w/ OS…

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,67231

Reply to loula, asked if anyone has heard of this clinic in Mexico?

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,51223

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RE: Hope4Cancer Institute

by laurendownie on Mon Aug 20, 2012 09:43 AM
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My dear dear darling daughter Olivia has died I am devastated to tell you.we had the most horrifying experience at the hope4cancer clinic.she died the most painful tragic death.my daugher is Olivia downie.if you google her you will find some partial information on this.i am willing to chat about this but cant find the strength right now to post it all on here.we were transferred to a private hospital where Olivia was on life support.she then returned home in a private emergency air ambulance at our expense.or rather the nations expense.the clinic never checked on Olivia' the hope 4 cancer clinic never called emailed etc etc.she died after 2days of returning home to local hosp.she had a a very very high tumour marker the clinic gave her a bx injection vaccine....which most definately worsened her condition.gave her torturous pain...then her lungs filled with fluids.we never got to hear her voice again...or see her eyes open...I emailed the clinic and called,asking for a breakdown of the ingredients in the bx protocol.my questions ignored.they took us over there got the money...finished olivia off when she could have spent the time at home and the left us to get on with it,

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by printweaver on Wed Aug 29, 2012 02:28 AM
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My heart goes out to you and your family for the loss Olivia.  I was thinking of taking my father to hope4cancer, but know now it is not a good option.  God bless you...
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laurendownie on Mon Aug 20, 2012 09:43 AM:
"the clinic gave her a bx injection vaccine....which most definately worsened her condition.gave her torturous pain...then her lungs filled with fluids."

laurendownie on Mon Aug 20, 2012 09:43 AM:
"I emailed the clinic and called,asking for a breakdown of the ingredients in the bx protocol.my questions ignored."

This is two facts still ignored. Why?
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 02:21:07 AM »

There is a BBC TV report about Olivia Downie here ...
https://youtu.be/i95c90MbNJE?t=3m22s
Secret filming of Dr Tony Jimenez in the Hope4Cancer clinic is shown.



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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i95c90MbNJE
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 02:54:54 AM »

The current recipe for BX is "homeopathic formula" "1,000,000X" dilution = pure distilled-water , no active ingredients whatsoever ...


http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/9/97/Label_on_a_bottle_of_%27BX-Protocol%27%2C_%28a_cure-all%29%2C_listing_ingredients.png

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Label_on_a_bottle_of_%27BX-Protocol%27,_(a_cure-all),_listing_ingredients.png

However back in 2012, when BX was injected, it was still billed as homeopathic, but the liquid in the syringe bottles had a purple tint to it, so not pure water ...



https://www.bxprotocol.com/images/bottles2.png
https://www.bxprotocol.com/bxantitoxin2.php


[pics frozen, secured, and archived, Thymian]
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 03:27:08 PM »

"1,000,000X" is a dilution by 1:10 to the 1-millionth. No coloring of whatever kind would survive this depth of dilution. The result must be absolutely colorless.

As the ingredients of the bottles does have a color, there is only one explanation: the declaration is false. It is a forgery.

Each single medical doctor must realize that. So Jimenez knowingly applied a falsely declared contents to his patients. And the same is true for all the other medical doctors or self-acclaimed medical doctors, like Sherri Tenpenny. All of them must be de-licensed.
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 05:26:46 PM »

Dewayne Lee Smith is an illiterate idiot. Take the bottle at he left side of this picture, crop and enlarge the area.

http://transgallaxys.com/~aktenschrank/FILES_FOR_THE_FBI/BX_PROTOCOL_BX_ANTITOXIN_bottles2.png
https://www.bxprotocol.com/images/bottles2.png
https://www.bxprotocol.com/bxantitoxin2.php

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NUETRACUETICALS

BX

ENERGY CATALYST

0.5 FLUID OZ (15ML)

DIETARY SUPPLEMENT
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"NUETRACUETICALS" !? What the hell!? It is "nutraceuticals"! Who is responsible for that misspelling? And who is responsible for not correcting the misspelling?

Why did no-one in the healthcare scenes and groups and offices and companies involved in handling and/or applying that stuff notice and complain?

Are they all so sloppy, so lazy, and so dumb? Looking at those connected with "BX Protocol" and the "Delta Institute" gang, it becomes obvious: they are sloppy, they are lazy, they are dumb, they are foul to the core.


And one more detail demanding action: "DIETARY SUPPLEMENT" Dietary supplements are taken in by the mouth, "orally" is the proper describing adjective. Orally, and not by an injection! This is a major fault, which alone makes the whole thing a case for the authorities to ban any sales, any import or export, and any use.

Who in the FDA is responsible for not taking action? Is the FDA a corrupt or simply mentally under-powered bunch?

Get moving! Do the work you are paid for by the citizens!
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2016, 01:16:31 AM »

Yulli wrote :
"And one more detail demanding action: "DIETARY SUPPLEMENT" Dietary supplements are taken in by the mouth, "orally" is the proper describing adjective. Orally, and not by an injection! This is a major fault, which alone makes the whole thing a case for the authorities to ban any sales, any import or export, and any use.  Who in the FDA is responsible for not taking action?"

Delta had stopped selling BX in syringe-bottles by 2015. It was then sold in pump-action atomizer bottles to be squirted in the mouth, (a faux sublingual delivery), that would satisfy the oral requirement for "DIETARY SUPPLEMENT". 

Yulli wrote :
"1,000,000X" is a dilution by 1:10 to the 1-millionth. No coloring of whatever kind would survive this depth of dilution. The result must be absolutely colorless.

True, but the "1,000,000X" dilution is on the pump-action bottles.
The only dilution stated for the syringe-bottles I can find is "... exceeding 1/1012 "...

"... the solution based preparations could be viewed as homeopathic, with dilution factors exceeding 1/1012 ",
https://web.archive.org/web/20151221012511/http://www.bxprotocol.com/bxenergycatalyst.php

 A dilution of "1/1012" ≃ 0.1% = 3X could have a hint of colour.
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Yulli

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2016, 10:08:52 AM »

Oh, no, GdGy you got that wrong!

"A dilution of "1/1012" ≃ 0.1% = 3X could have a hint of colour."

NO!

There is a difference in German and American writing. I will explain in German way because I do not know how Smith does his "math".

A dilution by a factor of 10 in German writing is 1:10

This can be written as 1/10. But the common way is to use exponentiation:  1:10 ^ 1

A dilution by a factor of 100 in German writing is 1:100

Exponential notation: 1:10 ^ 2

The usual dilutions are beyond 1:1000000

1:1000000 is 1:10^6

So, 1:10^12 is 1:1000000000000

That is not in the percent range. It is 1 millionth of 1 millionth. That for sure is colorless.

And 1:1000000X is 1:10^1000000

You need megabillions of megabillions of universes for such a dilution.
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Yulli

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 10:11:51 AM »

GdGy wrote:

"Delta had stopped selling BX in syringe-bottles by 2015. It was then sold in pump-action atomizer bottles to be squirted in the mouth, (a faux sublingual delivery), that would satisfy the oral requirement for "DIETARY SUPPLEMENT". "

But at the time the syringe bottles were used, they were for injections. The labeling as "dietary supplement" was a breach of laws.
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2016, 01:19:03 AM »

Yulli wrote "Oh, no, GdGy you got that wrong!"
http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=9070.msg21348#msg21348

The pump-action bottles, (the current BX product), has "1,000,000X" on the bottle.
I don't know what was written on the BX syringe-bottles, but the internet page with the syringe-bottles says ...   
"... dilution factors exceeding 1/1012".

1/1012 is ~3X,  if they meant  1:10^12 that's 12X . They seem to be saying the formula is different in the types of bottles.

We shouldn't believe anything they say, unless it can be independently corroborated.
"1012" looks like spurious accuracy, and "1,000,000X" is insanely high.

[ The color of the solution in the syringe-bottles does look too saturated for even for a 3X dilution ].
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2016, 01:32:07 AM »

Yulli wrote "But at the time the syringe bottles were used, they were for injections. The labeling as "dietary supplement" was a breach of laws."
http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=9070.msg21349#msg21349

Breach of American laws. Olivia Downie was injected with BX in Mexico.
Delta Institute claim their BX stuff is not made in America :
The current BX product just says "Made in Canada" , (which is a big place).

I believe the BX "dietary supplement" would have to be injected on American soil, by a licensed doctor or nurse, for disciplinary-action to be possible.
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worelia

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2016, 12:34:39 PM »

Gday.

GdGy:
"Breach of American laws. Olivia Downie was injected with BX in Mexico."

Smith, Smith, Mauer, et al, alias "Delta Institute",  are the inventors, the manufacturers, the importers, and the dealers. For each of that they are guilty. Guilty in Canada, guilty in the USA, guilty in UK.

Since they reside in the USA, the USA has the duty to do their legal work.

GdGy:
"I believe the BX "dietary supplement" would have to be injected on American soil, by a licensed doctor or nurse, for disciplinary-action to be possible"

Since it was used as ordered by manufacturer, the manufacturer bears the responsibility. Also important to note: Olivia Downie was only one case. One case of how many? How many of the others were "treated" (I better write "killed") that way in the USA?
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Yulli

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2016, 04:03:18 PM »

GdGy wrote:
"The pump-action bottles, (the current BX product), has "1,000,000X" on the bottle."

According to homeopathic notation that is 1 million times a potentization by the factor of 10.


" don't know what was written on the BX syringe-bottles, but the internet page with the syringe-bottles says ...   
"... dilution factors exceeding 1/1012"."

Where is that? Please show me the photo of that.


"The color of the solution in the syringe-bottles does look too saturated for even for a 3X dilution"

It does. And no-one noticed? No naturopath? No medical doctor? Really no-one? Not even of the staff in any of the offices?

We do know that scientific knowledge is scarce among those "practitioners" of woo-woo. But this is no science, this is elementary everyday physics. Any school-child would know this. Any housewife would know this. How deep did this "alternative" establishment sink? Or, if it did not sink, from which depths of mental disability are they made of?

There should be a sign on their door:

"DANGER!
Insane and madmen here!
Run for your life!

DANGER! "
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2016, 09:55:43 PM »

Yulli wrote "Where is that? Please show me the photo of that."
http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=9070.msg21355#msg21355

The "1/1012" is on this page ... https://web.archive.org/web/20151221012511/http://www.bxprotocol.com/bxenergycatalyst.php  , which includes a picture of BX in syringe-bottles.

It may be a typo meaning 1:10^12 , but that would still only be 12X , not the "1,000,000X" which is on the pump-action spray bottles. 
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worelia

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2016, 10:38:36 PM »

Frozen piece of evidence contained this source code:

http://www.bxprotocol.com/bxenergycatalyst.php

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  <em>Because the  photocatalytic activity of the Energy Catalyst is so high, we are able to rely  on low concentrations of the bio-molecule within the human body. In this sense  the solution based preparations could be viewed as homeopathic, with dilution  factors exceeding 1/10</em><em>12</em><em>&nbsp; However, it&rsquo;s the ability of the substance to initiate  oxidation dispersal within the toxic structures that allows the reaction to  geometrically progress and spread from cell to cell, which could be equated to  the relationship between a matchstick and a forest fire.  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
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    Simply put, the BX Energy Catalyst absorbs the vital energy of the toxic  structures in a manner that yields tremendous antimicrobial action without  bio-toxicity.</em><br>

[*/quote*]


Obviously it was intended to be an exponentiation: 1:10^12

Intellectually challenged Dewayne Smith spoiled it. He should have used <sup>12</sup>.
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2016, 06:05:41 PM »

Worelia wrote "Obviously it was intended to be an exponentiation: 1:10^12".
http://transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/index.php?topic=9070.msg21357#msg21357

So allegedly 12X . Top-quality distilled-water is 8X, which is colorless.
So the purple stuff in the syringe-bottle can't really be 12X if the diluent is water.
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2016, 09:31:42 AM »

The latest incarnation of the BX Protocol website , which shows pump-action bottles ,
http://www.thebxsolution.com/bx-care-system , still has "1/1012".
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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2016, 10:28:29 AM »

[*quote*]
Posted by: GdGy
« on: September 21, 2016, 09:31:42 AM »

The latest incarnation of the BX Protocol website , which shows pump-action bottles ,
http://www.thebxsolution.com/bx-care-system , still has "1/1012".
[*/quote*]

My dear Mr. wiseguy, where is your piece of proof? Is your only purpose url-dropping?


This is the piece of proof:

[*quote*]
Because the photocatalytic activity of the Energy Catalyst is so high, we are able to rely on low concentrations of the bio-molecule within the human body. In this sense the solution based preparations could be viewed as homeopathic, with dilution factors exceeding 1/1012  However, it’s the ability of the substance to initiate oxidation dispersal within the toxic structures that allows the reaction to geometrically progress and spread from cell to cell, which could be equated to the relationship between a matchstick and a forest fire.
[*/quote*]

Now tell us  what is wrong with that.
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GdGy

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Re: Victim of Dewayne Lee Smith and his 'BX Protocol': Olivia Downie
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 10:33:10 PM »

Zoran wrote "... Now tell us  what is wrong with that".

The new "thebxsolution" BX-variant website, less than a week old, which features pump-bottles , still has "1/1012" , as appears on their 2012 website with BX-syringe bottles.

Only difference, no evidence of the previous attempt to use super-script on the "12" ...


http://www.thebxsolution.com/bx-care-system

The moral of the story : the text has no correlation to the BX bottle-type, or its contents :
they are just copying & pasting.
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